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America’s Humiliating Surrender to Iran

Featuring Tom Nichols and Sarah Matthews.

A conversation with Tom Nichols and Sarah Matthews about the Trump administration’s surrender to Iran, the damage to US prestige and power around the world, and how this undermines American democracy.

Tom is a staff writer at The Atlantic and a contributor to the Atlantic Daily newsletter. He is the author of “The Death of Expertise” and “Our Own Worst Enemy,” and professor emeritus at the US Naval War College, where he focused on Russia, nuclear weapons, and national security.

Sarah is an advisory board member and spokeswoman for Home of the Brave. She previously served as deputy White House press secretary during Trump’s first term, and she resigned in protest on January 6, 2021.

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